1 00:00:01,135 --> 00:00:03,304 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:03,337 --> 00:00:06,174 sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. 3 00:00:06,207 --> 00:00:08,442 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 4 00:00:08,476 --> 00:00:10,311 who investigate these vicious felonies 5 00:00:10,344 --> 00:00:12,046 are members of an elite squad 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,647 known as the Special Victims Unit. 7 00:00:13,681 --> 00:00:17,451 These are their stories. 8 00:00:17,485 --> 00:00:19,520 Now, if this were a real busy street, 9 00:00:19,553 --> 00:00:21,489 there'd be lots of cars and people, okay? 10 00:00:21,522 --> 00:00:22,556 I'm telling. 11 00:00:22,590 --> 00:00:24,725 Now, I want everybody to take your buddy's hand, 12 00:00:24,758 --> 00:00:25,759 all right? 13 00:00:25,793 --> 00:00:27,228 I don't want to hold her hand. 14 00:00:27,261 --> 00:00:28,529 Now, what do we do when we get 15 00:00:28,562 --> 00:00:29,663 to the crosswalk? 16 00:00:29,697 --> 00:00:31,199 Anybody remember? 17 00:00:31,232 --> 00:00:32,400 ALL: No. 18 00:00:32,433 --> 00:00:35,069 We stop, we look, and we listen. 19 00:00:35,103 --> 00:00:38,072 And then we walk to the other side. 20 00:00:38,106 --> 00:00:40,341 Now, stay inside the lines of the crosswalk, okay? 21 00:00:40,374 --> 00:00:41,509 And walk very, very fast. 22 00:00:41,542 --> 00:00:45,079 I'm going to go first. 23 00:00:45,113 --> 00:00:47,481 Okay, no running, and no pushing, please. 24 00:00:47,515 --> 00:00:48,716 I hope a cab doesn't splatter you 25 00:00:48,749 --> 00:00:50,518 all over mid-town, you little brats. 26 00:00:50,551 --> 00:00:51,485 Me first. 27 00:00:51,519 --> 00:00:53,654 Me first. 28 00:00:53,687 --> 00:00:55,489 Take them inside Melody, now. 29 00:00:55,523 --> 00:00:56,457 Go. 30 00:00:56,490 --> 00:00:58,459 Come on kids, let's go. 31 00:00:58,492 --> 00:01:00,694 ( children chatting loudly ) 32 00:01:00,728 --> 00:01:02,730 Let's get inside now, come on. 33 00:01:09,503 --> 00:01:10,671 White male, twenties, naked, 34 00:01:10,704 --> 00:01:13,241 wrapped in a set of Queen-size sheets and a blanket. 35 00:01:13,274 --> 00:01:14,442 Condom's in there with him, 36 00:01:14,475 --> 00:01:15,276 fluids on the body, 37 00:01:15,309 --> 00:01:17,211 which is why we called you guys in. 38 00:01:17,245 --> 00:01:19,613 Do you have any idea how long the body's been here? 39 00:01:19,647 --> 00:01:21,615 Trash collection worked this street at 11:00 last night. 40 00:01:21,649 --> 00:01:22,750 No body then. Neck's broken. 41 00:01:22,783 --> 00:01:26,520 Bruising goes all the way around. 42 00:01:26,554 --> 00:01:28,522 Back of his scalp is pretty torn up, 43 00:01:28,556 --> 00:01:30,491 and there's white powder in it. 44 00:01:30,524 --> 00:01:34,528 See this blue stuff on the sheets? 45 00:01:34,562 --> 00:01:36,330 It's not wax, it's more like melted plastic. 46 00:01:36,364 --> 00:01:37,198 MAN: Detectives, 47 00:01:37,231 --> 00:01:38,699 the building super around the corner 48 00:01:38,732 --> 00:01:40,501 pulled this pillowcase out of the bushes. 49 00:01:40,534 --> 00:01:41,669 It matches the sheets? 50 00:01:41,702 --> 00:01:43,237 His clothes? 51 00:01:43,271 --> 00:01:45,506 Check for a wallet. 52 00:01:45,539 --> 00:01:47,141 BENSON: There's no wallet in here. 53 00:01:47,175 --> 00:01:48,342 Got something. 54 00:01:50,578 --> 00:01:52,413 "Seventh and Bleeker, Thursday, 7:00 p.m.." 55 00:01:52,446 --> 00:01:53,581 Last night in the village. 56 00:01:53,614 --> 00:01:55,616 Maybe that's where he met his killer. 57 00:01:55,649 --> 00:01:57,551 Must have shown him a real good time 58 00:01:57,585 --> 00:01:58,719 before she did the deed. 59 00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:01,255 Marvin, right now is a good opportunity 60 00:02:01,289 --> 00:02:02,590 for you to learn. 61 00:02:02,623 --> 00:02:05,293 An erection is often a side effect of asphyxiation. 62 00:02:05,326 --> 00:02:06,494 Oh, yeah? 63 00:02:06,527 --> 00:02:07,528 'Cause I was going to say, 64 00:02:07,561 --> 00:02:08,796 the guy was scared stiff. 65 00:02:12,833 --> 00:02:17,271 Captioning sponsored by UNIVERSAL NETWORK TELEVISION 66 00:02:17,305 --> 00:02:20,841 and NBC 67 00:03:08,422 --> 00:03:10,491 We've got six restaurants, two bars, 13 businesses 68 00:03:10,524 --> 00:03:12,526 and over 400 residents near Bleeker and Seventh. 69 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,462 That is a hell of a lot of doors to knock on. 70 00:03:14,495 --> 00:03:15,796 Not to mention, it's 100 blocks away 71 00:03:15,829 --> 00:03:17,398 from where the victim ended up. 72 00:03:17,431 --> 00:03:18,832 If his date killed him in the village, 73 00:03:18,866 --> 00:03:20,468 that's a long way to lug a body. 74 00:03:20,501 --> 00:03:22,403 Meaning one of them lives near the dump site, 75 00:03:22,436 --> 00:03:23,604 or she had help moving the body. 76 00:03:23,637 --> 00:03:24,738 What did Missing Persons say? 77 00:03:24,772 --> 00:03:27,541 Nobody's missed him yet, and we got no hit on the prints. 78 00:03:27,575 --> 00:03:28,409 WOMAN: Detectives. 79 00:03:28,442 --> 00:03:31,345 This turned out to be a challenging one. 80 00:03:31,379 --> 00:03:32,646 Well, what did the lab find? 81 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,548 Substance in the hair turned out 82 00:03:34,582 --> 00:03:36,016 to be gypsum particles and flakes 83 00:03:36,049 --> 00:03:37,985 of flat latex paint in eggshell white. 84 00:03:38,018 --> 00:03:39,920 Somebody bashed his head against the wall. 85 00:03:39,953 --> 00:03:41,455 It's a common brand of paint. 86 00:03:41,489 --> 00:03:43,324 It won't help you much with the location. 87 00:03:43,357 --> 00:03:45,493 The bed sheets were a little more interesting. 88 00:03:45,526 --> 00:03:46,894 We put that blue substance 89 00:03:46,927 --> 00:03:48,629 under an infrared spectrometer. 90 00:03:48,662 --> 00:03:49,863 It's nylon, 91 00:03:49,897 --> 00:03:51,665 specifically used for sports apparel. 92 00:03:51,699 --> 00:03:53,667 Somehow, it melted all over the sheets. 93 00:03:53,701 --> 00:03:54,868 STABLER: Like maybe from 94 00:03:54,902 --> 00:03:55,869 a faulty dryer? 95 00:03:55,903 --> 00:03:57,070 You know, it runs too hot, 96 00:03:57,104 --> 00:03:59,507 you put a pair of running shorts in there with the sheets, 97 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:00,608 you ruin the whole load. 98 00:04:00,641 --> 00:04:02,443 Killed in an apartment with white walls 99 00:04:02,476 --> 00:04:03,544 and a crappy laundry facility. 100 00:04:03,577 --> 00:04:04,545 I think I live there. 101 00:04:04,578 --> 00:04:06,580 Yeah, but I'm guessing you didn't kill the guy. 102 00:04:06,614 --> 00:04:09,883 We blood-typed the semen found in the sheets. 103 00:04:10,918 --> 00:04:12,586 Two types. 104 00:04:12,620 --> 00:04:14,588 Your victim spent his last night with another man. 105 00:04:14,622 --> 00:04:15,589 CRAGEN: Well, there's two bars 106 00:04:15,623 --> 00:04:16,990 in the village on your list. 107 00:04:17,024 --> 00:04:19,293 You and Olivia see if any of them cater 108 00:04:19,327 --> 00:04:21,495 exclusively to gentlemen. 109 00:04:24,432 --> 00:04:26,400 BENSON: You ever seen this guy? 110 00:04:26,434 --> 00:04:29,002 Sorry, I don't recognize him. 111 00:04:29,036 --> 00:04:30,604 How late did you work? 112 00:04:30,638 --> 00:04:31,705 Till 4:00 in the morning. 113 00:04:31,739 --> 00:04:33,541 It's kind of a blur after 10:00, though. 114 00:04:33,574 --> 00:04:34,842 ( laughs ) 115 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:35,943 Benefits of working 116 00:04:35,976 --> 00:04:38,379 at a gay bar-- I never have to buy my own drinks. 117 00:04:38,412 --> 00:04:40,481 STABLER: What kind of clientele you get in here? 118 00:04:40,514 --> 00:04:41,749 Hustlers strolling for work? 119 00:04:41,782 --> 00:04:43,751 No, mostly just neighborhood guys. 120 00:04:43,784 --> 00:04:45,853 What about lovers spats getting out of hand? 121 00:04:45,886 --> 00:04:47,020 Bouncer handles that. 122 00:04:47,054 --> 00:04:48,456 Hey, Tony? 123 00:04:48,489 --> 00:04:50,891 Police. 124 00:04:52,125 --> 00:04:54,328 He come in here last night? 125 00:04:56,464 --> 00:04:59,867 Never seen him here, but I know that face. 126 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:02,403 I think he's a model or something. 127 00:05:02,436 --> 00:05:04,705 Like in a magazine? 128 00:05:04,738 --> 00:05:05,539 No, posters. 129 00:05:05,573 --> 00:05:06,674 You know, the kind 130 00:05:06,707 --> 00:05:09,076 they plaster all over those construction site fences? 131 00:05:09,109 --> 00:05:11,445 Lawbreakers. 132 00:05:11,479 --> 00:05:12,746 He said the poster was advertising 133 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:13,981 some dating service. 134 00:05:14,014 --> 00:05:15,749 Sure it wasn't Captain Zippy's Rave, 135 00:05:15,783 --> 00:05:18,686 or fantastic, potent, herbal Viagra? 136 00:05:21,555 --> 00:05:24,358 This might be something. 137 00:05:24,392 --> 00:05:26,627 "We chose the path to love." 138 00:05:27,595 --> 00:05:29,563 That's him. 139 00:05:29,597 --> 00:05:31,399 Looking pretty heterosexual. 140 00:05:31,432 --> 00:05:33,401 ReGenesis. 141 00:05:33,434 --> 00:05:35,403 Doesn't sound like a dating service. 142 00:05:35,436 --> 00:05:37,405 HUANG: It's a Christian Ministry, 143 00:05:37,438 --> 00:05:39,640 advocating freedom from homosexuality 144 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:41,074 through prayer and counseling. 145 00:05:41,108 --> 00:05:42,476 It started in the '80s 146 00:05:42,510 --> 00:05:44,412 as the so-called "ex-gay" movement. 147 00:05:44,445 --> 00:05:47,114 Here we go, "ReGenesis." 148 00:05:47,147 --> 00:05:49,717 "A second chance at a new beginning." 149 00:05:49,750 --> 00:05:51,084 Started by Kelly and Derek Singer, 150 00:05:51,118 --> 00:05:53,587 both ex-gays themselves. 151 00:05:53,621 --> 00:05:55,623 So, former gays turn gay bashers? 152 00:05:55,656 --> 00:05:56,724 Not quite. 153 00:05:56,757 --> 00:05:59,593 ReGenesis doesn't condemn homosexuality outright, 154 00:05:59,627 --> 00:06:01,395 but it does believe that it's a sin, 155 00:06:01,429 --> 00:06:02,930 and like all sins, one has to resist it 156 00:06:02,963 --> 00:06:04,131 in order to enter 157 00:06:04,164 --> 00:06:05,165 the kingdom of God. 158 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:08,168 Meaning, if I pray hard enough, I'll be straight. 159 00:06:08,201 --> 00:06:09,169 Or celibate. 160 00:06:09,202 --> 00:06:11,705 Most ex-gays consider themselves successful 161 00:06:11,739 --> 00:06:13,140 if they resist same-sex behavior. 162 00:06:13,173 --> 00:06:15,709 The movement's still controversial. 163 00:06:15,743 --> 00:06:17,411 Yeah, but if somebody really believes 164 00:06:17,445 --> 00:06:18,512 that being gay is a sin, 165 00:06:18,546 --> 00:06:20,548 what's wrong with trying to change? 166 00:06:20,581 --> 00:06:22,750 HUANG: The assumption that one can change. 167 00:06:22,783 --> 00:06:26,053 ReGenesis claims that members of its ministry have actually 168 00:06:26,086 --> 00:06:28,789 become heterosexual, but offer little proof. 169 00:06:28,822 --> 00:06:31,191 Most psychiatrists believe it doesn't work. 170 00:06:31,224 --> 00:06:32,926 So, the poster boy for the ex-gay movement 171 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:33,961 is still sleeping with guys. 172 00:06:33,994 --> 00:06:36,096 I mean, that's going to piss a few people off. 173 00:06:36,129 --> 00:06:38,666 Find out how much. 174 00:06:38,699 --> 00:06:41,101 And let's put a name to this face. 175 00:06:43,103 --> 00:06:45,706 WOMAN: James Reed. I can't believe it. 176 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:46,940 James Reed. 177 00:06:46,974 --> 00:06:48,642 When was the last time you saw him? 178 00:06:48,676 --> 00:06:50,778 Over six months ago. 179 00:06:50,811 --> 00:06:52,780 I tried contacting him by phone. 180 00:06:52,813 --> 00:06:55,983 I-I sent letters, and he never answered. 181 00:06:56,016 --> 00:06:58,652 Did you guys have a falling out or something? 182 00:06:58,686 --> 00:07:00,788 He thought we were judging him, 183 00:07:00,821 --> 00:07:02,790 but we loved James. 184 00:07:02,823 --> 00:07:04,692 As long as he was straight. 185 00:07:04,725 --> 00:07:05,959 No. That would make us hypocrites. 186 00:07:05,993 --> 00:07:09,196 But your straight now, right? 187 00:07:09,229 --> 00:07:12,600 So, you're following God's law, but he wasn't. 188 00:07:12,633 --> 00:07:15,669 You think that we're just these bunch of religious fanatics 189 00:07:15,703 --> 00:07:17,671 who think God turned us straight? 190 00:07:17,705 --> 00:07:19,039 It's a struggle, Detective. 191 00:07:19,072 --> 00:07:21,742 And Kelly and I fight it together, every day. 192 00:07:21,775 --> 00:07:23,811 STABLER: So, how was it that James 193 00:07:23,844 --> 00:07:25,012 wound up on the poster? 194 00:07:25,045 --> 00:07:27,047 It was his idea. 195 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,082 He felt that people should know 196 00:07:29,116 --> 00:07:32,686 you can be accountable to God and have joy in your life. 197 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,922 Homosexuality doesn't have to control you. 198 00:07:34,955 --> 00:07:37,257 BENSON: But he changed his tune six months ago. 199 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:40,494 He had doubts. 200 00:07:40,528 --> 00:07:42,696 I told him, we all have crises of faith. 201 00:07:42,730 --> 00:07:44,865 BENSON: In other words, he had a boyfriend? 202 00:07:44,898 --> 00:07:48,869 Now, that doesn't look good for ReGenesis. 203 00:07:48,902 --> 00:07:50,604 Are you suggesting that we killed James? 204 00:07:50,638 --> 00:07:52,205 STABLER: Someone may have felt betrayed. 205 00:07:52,239 --> 00:07:53,574 You have this ad campaign. 206 00:07:53,607 --> 00:07:54,875 Must have cost you a lot of money. 207 00:07:54,908 --> 00:07:56,977 There's James Reed, your poster boy for success, 208 00:07:57,010 --> 00:07:59,513 until he starts sleeping with a bunch of guys again. 209 00:07:59,547 --> 00:08:01,682 It makes your organization look like a sham. 210 00:08:01,715 --> 00:08:02,983 I wouldn't have cared if James had 211 00:08:03,016 --> 00:08:05,285 100 boyfriends, if it made him happy. 212 00:08:05,318 --> 00:08:07,588 I knew it didn't. 213 00:08:09,022 --> 00:08:11,625 Look, we were just hoping James would come back. 214 00:08:11,659 --> 00:08:13,761 We would have welcomed him. 215 00:08:13,794 --> 00:08:16,830 Yeah, you wrote him, uh, those letters? 216 00:08:16,864 --> 00:08:18,966 Yeah. We'll need that address. 217 00:08:21,935 --> 00:08:23,904 There's no blood. 218 00:08:23,937 --> 00:08:26,574 Doesn't look like James Reed was killed in his apartment. 219 00:08:27,641 --> 00:08:29,610 A syllabus for a clinical psych class, 220 00:08:29,643 --> 00:08:30,878 Hudson University. 221 00:08:30,911 --> 00:08:32,780 Looks like he was going for his masters. 222 00:08:36,584 --> 00:08:39,086 "Me and Phil, Thousand Islands, June '03." 223 00:08:39,119 --> 00:08:41,154 They're happy. 224 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:43,991 Unless Phil's the one he spent his last night with. 225 00:08:44,024 --> 00:08:46,727 Look at this. 226 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,929 Four letters from Derek Singer, all unopened. 227 00:08:48,962 --> 00:08:50,631 I guess he was telling the truth. 228 00:08:50,664 --> 00:08:51,865 Those two were depressing. 229 00:08:51,899 --> 00:08:53,100 Trying to convince themselves 230 00:08:53,133 --> 00:08:54,768 and everybody else that they're happy. 231 00:08:54,802 --> 00:08:55,936 Maybe they are. 232 00:08:55,969 --> 00:08:57,170 Elliot, you can't tell me 233 00:08:57,204 --> 00:08:58,872 that repressing your sexual desires 234 00:08:58,906 --> 00:09:00,841 makes a gay person a good Christian. 235 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:01,642 I don't know. 236 00:09:01,675 --> 00:09:03,577 Maybe some people choose to be gay, 237 00:09:03,611 --> 00:09:04,878 others choose to be straight. 238 00:09:04,912 --> 00:09:06,880 Oh, so you chose to be heterosexual? 239 00:09:06,914 --> 00:09:08,782 Me? No. 240 00:09:08,816 --> 00:09:10,217 Check this out. 241 00:09:10,250 --> 00:09:11,585 "All queers 242 00:09:11,619 --> 00:09:13,086 "will burn in the eternal fire 243 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,788 of hell, so sayeth the Lord." 244 00:09:14,822 --> 00:09:17,357 Somehow I don't think that's a direct quote. 245 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:18,759 Hate mail. 246 00:09:18,792 --> 00:09:20,327 Yeah, about 20, 30 pieces of it, 247 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,929 all coming from Nebraska. 248 00:09:21,962 --> 00:09:22,896 No return address. 249 00:09:22,930 --> 00:09:25,933 I guess word of Reed's defection slipped out. 250 00:09:25,966 --> 00:09:27,167 Let's see if the boyfriend 251 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,102 in the picture knows who sent them. 252 00:09:30,337 --> 00:09:32,305 Phone number for Phil Sona. 253 00:09:32,339 --> 00:09:34,307 MAN: I read about James' death 254 00:09:34,341 --> 00:09:35,676 in the paper. 255 00:09:35,709 --> 00:09:36,810 I'm just sick about it. 256 00:09:36,844 --> 00:09:39,079 I find it odd you didn't report your boyfriend missing, 257 00:09:39,112 --> 00:09:40,213 though, Doctor Phil. 258 00:09:40,247 --> 00:09:41,915 Ex-boyfriend. 259 00:09:41,949 --> 00:09:43,050 We broke up three months ago, 260 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:44,852 but James doesn't have any family, 261 00:09:44,885 --> 00:09:45,986 so I'm taking care 262 00:09:46,019 --> 00:09:47,320 of the funeral arrangements. 263 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:48,956 Look, I know you guys have a job to do, 264 00:09:48,989 --> 00:09:51,058 but I didn't kill James. 265 00:09:51,091 --> 00:09:52,325 I was at a seminar in Detroit 266 00:09:52,359 --> 00:09:53,727 the night he died. 267 00:09:53,761 --> 00:09:55,028 Why the breakup? 268 00:09:55,062 --> 00:09:57,097 Just wasn't the love of my life. 269 00:09:57,130 --> 00:09:59,099 I wasn't his, either. 270 00:09:59,132 --> 00:10:01,368 We both got what we needed at the time. 271 00:10:01,401 --> 00:10:03,170 A reason to leave ReGenesis. 272 00:10:03,203 --> 00:10:05,706 That is where we met. 273 00:10:05,739 --> 00:10:09,076 Taking the reorientation therapy, support groups, 274 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:11,078 prayer groups. 275 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:12,880 Then we turned to each other. 276 00:10:12,913 --> 00:10:15,148 We're, like, "What the hell are we doing here?" 277 00:10:15,182 --> 00:10:17,184 You thought the whole thing was a crock? 278 00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:18,251 No. For a long time, 279 00:10:18,285 --> 00:10:20,120 I thought things would be easier 280 00:10:20,153 --> 00:10:21,088 if I was straight. 281 00:10:21,121 --> 00:10:23,290 Now, I can't imagine wanting to be anybody 282 00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:24,692 other than who I am. 283 00:10:24,725 --> 00:10:25,993 And that is the one good thing 284 00:10:26,026 --> 00:10:27,027 that I learned at ReGenesis. 285 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:28,028 BENSON: Do you think 286 00:10:28,061 --> 00:10:30,263 that any ReGenesis member would be angry enough 287 00:10:30,297 --> 00:10:31,231 to go after James? 288 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:33,967 I doubt it. They're basically good people. 289 00:10:34,001 --> 00:10:35,068 They just believe 290 00:10:35,102 --> 00:10:37,971 that God has given them a road map for how to live. 291 00:10:38,005 --> 00:10:39,973 And I don't think it's that easy. 292 00:10:40,007 --> 00:10:41,441 These letters-- 293 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:43,443 you know who wrote them? 294 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:45,879 If that's more hate mail, 295 00:10:45,913 --> 00:10:46,747 it could have been anybody. 296 00:10:46,780 --> 00:10:48,448 James had written some angry articles 297 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:49,449 bashing ReGenesis. 298 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:51,719 I said, "You're making a target of yourself." 299 00:10:51,752 --> 00:10:53,120 BENSON: Dr. Sona, James may have been 300 00:10:53,153 --> 00:10:55,055 with a man the night he was murdered. 301 00:10:55,088 --> 00:10:56,890 Do you know if he had a new boyfriend? 302 00:10:56,924 --> 00:10:58,058 He said he was seeing somebody. 303 00:10:58,091 --> 00:10:59,059 I don't know who. 304 00:10:59,092 --> 00:11:01,194 It didn't sound like it was going to work out. 305 00:11:01,228 --> 00:11:02,696 The guy was way in the closet. 306 00:11:02,730 --> 00:11:03,931 STABLER: Maybe he'll come out 307 00:11:03,964 --> 00:11:05,966 long enough to attend the funeral. 308 00:11:07,801 --> 00:11:09,169 ( people shouting loudly ) 309 00:11:09,202 --> 00:11:10,403 What the hell is this? 310 00:11:10,437 --> 00:11:13,006 Devoted members from the Church of Eternal Providence, 311 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,875 visiting from beautiful Danville, Nebraska. 312 00:11:14,908 --> 00:11:15,909 Found our hate mailers. 313 00:11:15,943 --> 00:11:17,244 They got permits for the sidewalk. 314 00:11:17,277 --> 00:11:19,046 I'm waiting for one of them to step over it, 315 00:11:19,079 --> 00:11:20,213 so I can shut 'em up. 316 00:11:20,247 --> 00:11:21,715 You get a line on the boyfriend? 317 00:11:21,749 --> 00:11:22,883 So far, nobody claims to be, 318 00:11:22,916 --> 00:11:24,284 or claims to know who was dating Reed. 319 00:11:24,317 --> 00:11:25,185 MAN: God hates you, 320 00:11:25,218 --> 00:11:27,220 you hypocrites! Get the hell out of here. 321 00:11:27,254 --> 00:11:28,421 The Lord said 322 00:11:28,455 --> 00:11:31,058 all sodomites should be put to death. 323 00:11:31,091 --> 00:11:33,426 Whoa, his might has been shown to all those who believe... 324 00:11:33,460 --> 00:11:35,996 Are you just going to stand here and let them do this? 325 00:11:36,029 --> 00:11:37,097 Dr. Sona, just walk, come on. 326 00:11:37,130 --> 00:11:38,866 The Reverend has a right to free speech. 327 00:11:38,899 --> 00:11:40,033 The Lord Almighty killed James Reed 328 00:11:40,067 --> 00:11:41,368 for being a disgusting faggot... 329 00:11:41,401 --> 00:11:42,469 Oh yeah, that's right. 330 00:11:42,502 --> 00:11:45,172 We're all fags, and we're not going anywhere. 331 00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:48,008 He's burning for all eternity in the flames of hell. 332 00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:50,210 All you want, we're going to be sitting here, 333 00:11:50,243 --> 00:11:51,378 laughing our asses off. 334 00:11:51,411 --> 00:11:52,946 Okay, the protest is over Rev. 335 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:55,148 This is a legal demonstration. 336 00:11:55,182 --> 00:11:56,449 Well, not anymore. Look down. 337 00:11:56,483 --> 00:11:58,819 You're trespassing. 338 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,402 Reverend Mitchell Shaw. 339 00:12:15,435 --> 00:12:17,771 You really get around. 340 00:12:17,805 --> 00:12:22,109 Protesting in Vermont, at the Supreme Court... 341 00:12:23,443 --> 00:12:25,245 ...cheering at the funeral 342 00:12:25,278 --> 00:12:27,247 of a six-year-old who died of AIDS. 343 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,549 Maybe you should switch to a career in publicity. 344 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:32,085 The Lord asked me to do his work. 345 00:12:32,119 --> 00:12:35,422 Did he ask you to ignore all that, uh... 346 00:12:35,455 --> 00:12:37,891 "Love thy neighbor" stuff? 347 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:40,928 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, 348 00:12:40,961 --> 00:12:43,563 "both of them have committed an abomination. 349 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:45,432 "They shall surely be put to death. 350 00:12:45,465 --> 00:12:47,434 Their blood shall be upon them." 351 00:12:47,467 --> 00:12:48,435 Leviticus. 352 00:12:48,468 --> 00:12:50,804 The Bible also says I can sell my daughters 353 00:12:50,838 --> 00:12:54,808 into slavery and be put to death if I work on Sundays. 354 00:12:54,842 --> 00:12:56,276 Twelve years of Catholic school. 355 00:12:56,309 --> 00:12:57,945 Anybody can memorize the words, Reverend. 356 00:12:57,978 --> 00:12:59,112 Doesn't make them righteous. 357 00:12:59,146 --> 00:13:01,448 This city is full of sodomites, 358 00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:04,284 and you waste your time protecting them... 359 00:13:04,317 --> 00:13:08,455 and yet you wonder why so many other NYPD brothers 360 00:13:08,488 --> 00:13:11,458 were struck down on September 11. 361 00:13:11,491 --> 00:13:13,894 Do you not see 362 00:13:13,927 --> 00:13:15,228 the Lord's judgment upon you? 363 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:23,470 I see a scared, shriveled up piece of trash 364 00:13:23,503 --> 00:13:27,374 who uses God to justify his bigotry. 365 00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:29,376 This guy doesn't believe half of what he says, Elliot. 366 00:13:29,409 --> 00:13:30,978 He's trying to get his name in the papers. 367 00:13:31,011 --> 00:13:33,046 I speak the truth. 368 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,615 Well, then, you won't deny calling James Reed a fag... 369 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:37,851 an AIDS-infested fag. 370 00:13:37,885 --> 00:13:40,520 You can't prosecute me for writing letters. 371 00:13:40,553 --> 00:13:42,622 We can if you killed the guy. 372 00:13:42,655 --> 00:13:45,859 The Lord passed his own judgment on James Reed. You're just doing 373 00:13:45,893 --> 00:13:47,027 his work for him? Is that it? 374 00:13:47,060 --> 00:13:48,028 I wish I had 375 00:13:48,061 --> 00:13:49,629 sent Reed to hell... 376 00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:51,965 but I was a thousand miles away. 377 00:13:55,568 --> 00:13:57,504 Go back in there and strangle the son-of-a-bitch. 378 00:13:57,537 --> 00:13:59,639 I love the guy; I want to invite him to the Christmas Party. 379 00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:01,508 The Lord spoke to him. 380 00:14:01,541 --> 00:14:04,511 The Lord sent an angel to talk to the mother of his only son, 381 00:14:04,544 --> 00:14:06,346 but he spoke to Reverend Shaw. 382 00:14:06,379 --> 00:14:07,647 He's a very special guy. 383 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,182 How's his alibi? 384 00:14:09,216 --> 00:14:10,650 Danville PD confirmed it. 385 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:12,519 Had their hands full with another picket 386 00:14:12,552 --> 00:14:14,654 organized by the reverend the night of Reed's murder. 387 00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:16,023 Then he's nothing to us. 388 00:14:16,056 --> 00:14:17,624 Cut him and the rest of his people loose. 389 00:14:17,657 --> 00:14:18,725 BENSON: He targeted Reed. 390 00:14:18,758 --> 00:14:21,194 One of his followers could've taken him seriously. 391 00:14:21,228 --> 00:14:23,196 You connect one of the members of Shaw's congregation 392 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:25,198 to the murder, I might be able to get him 393 00:14:25,232 --> 00:14:26,900 on the fighting words doctrine. 394 00:14:26,934 --> 00:14:28,001 Till then, First Amendment says 395 00:14:28,035 --> 00:14:30,370 he can enjoy his civil liberties like everybody else. 396 00:14:30,403 --> 00:14:32,906 We'll check out his followers anyway. 397 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:34,908 In the meantime, if we're thinking Reed's killer 398 00:14:34,942 --> 00:14:36,376 was the last person he slept with, 399 00:14:36,409 --> 00:14:38,045 there's a real problem with this theory. 400 00:14:38,078 --> 00:14:41,381 None of Shaw's people would ever have had sex with Reed. 401 00:14:41,414 --> 00:14:42,782 They just would have killed him. 402 00:14:42,815 --> 00:14:45,452 Well, we've still got the mystery boyfriend out there somewhere. 403 00:14:45,485 --> 00:14:47,554 What'd you get from the people at Reed's funeral? Not much. 404 00:14:47,587 --> 00:14:49,022 After the fight broke out, a bunch 405 00:14:49,056 --> 00:14:50,390 of people left before we got their names. 406 00:14:50,423 --> 00:14:52,492 Yeah, but we got their pictures. 407 00:14:52,525 --> 00:14:54,461 Where the hell's that from? MUNCH: One of Reverend Shaw's 408 00:14:54,494 --> 00:14:56,129 church members-- he must have left it behind. 409 00:14:56,163 --> 00:14:58,131 I didn't hear that. CRAGEN: Get it back to him, John. 410 00:14:58,165 --> 00:15:00,267 I'll be happy to-- I'd even develop his film for free. 411 00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:01,268 Show the pictures 412 00:15:01,301 --> 00:15:03,570 to the people you talk to at Reed's funeral. 413 00:15:03,603 --> 00:15:06,439 Maybe they can help ID the ones that got away. 414 00:15:09,742 --> 00:15:12,079 I told you at the cemetery I... 415 00:15:12,112 --> 00:15:14,581 I really only knew James as his advisor. 416 00:15:14,614 --> 00:15:16,950 I-I-I don't know his friends. 417 00:15:16,984 --> 00:15:18,718 And he never mentioned dating anyone, Dr. Waldman? 418 00:15:18,751 --> 00:15:21,254 All we talked about was his research. 419 00:15:21,288 --> 00:15:24,091 A shame-- it was shaping up to be quite provocative. 420 00:15:24,124 --> 00:15:26,426 How so? He was planning a long-term study 421 00:15:26,459 --> 00:15:28,095 on reparative therapy: 422 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,730 the idea that same-sex attraction is a form 423 00:15:30,763 --> 00:15:33,967 of arrested development and can be cured. 424 00:15:34,001 --> 00:15:35,735 Don't most shrinks think that's crap? 425 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:38,438 They do. Reparative therapy is experimental 426 00:15:38,471 --> 00:15:40,273 and unproven at best. 427 00:15:40,307 --> 00:15:41,274 And at worst? 428 00:15:41,308 --> 00:15:42,742 Early research indicates 429 00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:45,745 that patients can develop anxiety, depression, 430 00:15:45,778 --> 00:15:48,748 and an increased risk of suicide. 431 00:15:48,781 --> 00:15:50,750 Now, what's so provocative about James' research? 432 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:52,452 That reparative therapists know 433 00:15:52,485 --> 00:15:53,753 their treatment doesn't work, 434 00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:56,289 yet they prey on vulnerable patients, 435 00:15:56,323 --> 00:15:59,459 and take their money for a snake oil cure. 436 00:15:59,492 --> 00:16:00,994 That could've ruined a few careers. 437 00:16:01,028 --> 00:16:02,996 Might be a motive for murder. 438 00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:07,467 I'd agree, except no one outside the three professors 439 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:09,769 on the thesis committee had read the proposal. 440 00:16:09,802 --> 00:16:11,138 We're going to need their names. 441 00:16:11,171 --> 00:16:12,005 Of course. 442 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:13,773 Actually, there was a fourth professor, 443 00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:15,108 but he resigned. 444 00:16:15,142 --> 00:16:16,109 And who was that? 445 00:16:16,143 --> 00:16:17,477 Roger Tate. 446 00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:19,312 He's a proponent of reparative therapy, 447 00:16:19,346 --> 00:16:21,314 which is why I wanted him to sit on the committee, 448 00:16:21,348 --> 00:16:23,150 but he thought there were 449 00:16:23,183 --> 00:16:25,085 methodological problems with the study. 450 00:16:25,118 --> 00:16:29,122 We want to talk to him first. 451 00:16:29,156 --> 00:16:31,024 Mr. Reed and I had differences of opinion, 452 00:16:31,058 --> 00:16:32,659 but I liked and respected him. 453 00:16:32,692 --> 00:16:36,029 We've debated each other over the past few months 454 00:16:36,063 --> 00:16:38,031 in several symposiums. 455 00:16:38,065 --> 00:16:39,499 These debates, um... 456 00:16:39,532 --> 00:16:41,501 he thought being gay was okay, and you didn't? 457 00:16:41,534 --> 00:16:43,436 I personally have nothing 458 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:44,804 against homosexuals, 459 00:16:44,837 --> 00:16:48,041 but Mr. Reed believed homosexuality 460 00:16:48,075 --> 00:16:50,210 was a natural occurring variant, 461 00:16:50,243 --> 00:16:52,045 like left-handedness. 462 00:16:52,079 --> 00:16:55,348 I believe it's a complex pathology. 463 00:16:55,382 --> 00:16:56,349 And you can cure it? 464 00:16:56,383 --> 00:16:57,417 No, 465 00:16:57,450 --> 00:17:00,520 but by understanding the root of their neurosis, 466 00:17:00,553 --> 00:17:04,191 they can begin to control their neurotic tendencies. 467 00:17:04,224 --> 00:17:07,360 When homosexuals know the causes of their condition, 468 00:17:07,394 --> 00:17:09,696 they're more able to change their behavior 469 00:17:09,729 --> 00:17:11,564 if they choose to do so. 470 00:17:11,598 --> 00:17:14,067 So, what causes that condition? 471 00:17:14,101 --> 00:17:16,536 My research has shown that an over-bearing mother 472 00:17:16,569 --> 00:17:18,538 combined with a distant father 473 00:17:18,571 --> 00:17:21,841 often influences psycho-sexual development. 474 00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:24,711 A boy longs for a relationship with the father, 475 00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:27,714 and when he doesn't get it, he seeks it out in other men. 476 00:17:27,747 --> 00:17:28,948 It must have really burned you 477 00:17:28,981 --> 00:17:32,385 that Reed's research was going to torpedo all your work... 478 00:17:32,419 --> 00:17:34,221 or at least torpedo your wallet. 479 00:17:34,254 --> 00:17:35,655 His methods were shoddy. 480 00:17:35,688 --> 00:17:39,092 I doubt if his research would ever have been published. 481 00:17:39,126 --> 00:17:40,560 I may have disagreed with Mr. Reed, 482 00:17:40,593 --> 00:17:42,095 but I didn't hate him. 483 00:17:42,129 --> 00:17:43,863 If nothing else, I felt sorry for him. 484 00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:46,733 I treat men every day who are trying to fill 485 00:17:46,766 --> 00:17:48,635 their empty lives with anonymous sex 486 00:17:48,668 --> 00:17:51,138 and loveless relationships. 487 00:17:51,171 --> 00:17:54,874 Reed spent so much energy trying to convince himself 488 00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:57,744 that he was normal, happy... 489 00:17:57,777 --> 00:17:59,879 but how could he have been? 490 00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:01,414 If an over-bearing mother 491 00:18:01,448 --> 00:18:03,583 and a distant father cause homosexuality, 492 00:18:03,616 --> 00:18:04,584 how come I'm not gay? 493 00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:05,752 Maybe you're in denial. 494 00:18:05,785 --> 00:18:07,620 That'd explain a lot. 495 00:18:10,457 --> 00:18:12,592 Excuse me, was that Elliot Stabler? 496 00:18:12,625 --> 00:18:15,262 No, that's Ian, Dr. Tate's son. 497 00:18:15,295 --> 00:18:17,430 My mistake. 498 00:18:17,464 --> 00:18:18,431 What was that? 499 00:18:18,465 --> 00:18:20,500 I recognized him from his picture. 500 00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:22,269 Ian Tate at Reed's funeral, 501 00:18:22,302 --> 00:18:23,603 20 years old, no record, 502 00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:24,904 enrolled in a university upstate, 503 00:18:24,937 --> 00:18:27,274 dropped out halfway through the first semester. 504 00:18:27,307 --> 00:18:28,775 Now he's at a community college. 505 00:18:28,808 --> 00:18:30,610 His mother died when he was 12 years old. 506 00:18:30,643 --> 00:18:31,911 His father pays for his apartment, 507 00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:35,148 which is half a block away from where we found James Reed's body. 508 00:18:35,182 --> 00:18:36,115 We dumped Ian and Reed's phones. 509 00:18:36,149 --> 00:18:38,785 Past two months, there were over 50 calls, 510 00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:40,920 including one from Ian to Reed 511 00:18:40,953 --> 00:18:42,622 the night he was killed. 512 00:18:42,655 --> 00:18:43,823 They knew each other well enough 513 00:18:43,856 --> 00:18:45,625 for Ian to go to his funeral. So, we're saying 514 00:18:45,658 --> 00:18:49,162 Dr. Homophobe's son is gay and killed his boyfriend? 515 00:18:49,196 --> 00:18:51,164 Well, if he was ashamed of his sexual identity, 516 00:18:51,198 --> 00:18:52,064 then he may have been driven 517 00:18:52,098 --> 00:18:53,933 to destroy the man who personified it. 518 00:18:53,966 --> 00:18:55,168 With a father like Tate, 519 00:18:55,202 --> 00:18:56,303 no wonder he'd try to hide it. 520 00:18:56,336 --> 00:18:58,305 "You're not gay, son, you're just crazy." 521 00:18:58,338 --> 00:18:59,572 A lot of gay people suffer 522 00:18:59,606 --> 00:19:01,641 from some kind of internalized homophobia. 523 00:19:01,674 --> 00:19:03,576 They all grew up in the same culture that we did, 524 00:19:03,610 --> 00:19:05,478 where being gay was considered weird, 525 00:19:05,512 --> 00:19:07,214 or sick, or evil. 526 00:19:07,247 --> 00:19:09,316 Combine that with Dr. Tate spending years 527 00:19:09,349 --> 00:19:11,718 promoting the idea that homosexuality 528 00:19:11,751 --> 00:19:13,820 is unacceptable... Son must hate himself. 529 00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:16,223 And he might do anything to keep the illusion 530 00:19:16,256 --> 00:19:17,324 that he was straight. 531 00:19:17,357 --> 00:19:19,359 See if you can break it. 532 00:19:23,530 --> 00:19:25,232 STABLER: Ian Tate! 533 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:27,099 We need to talk to you. 534 00:19:27,133 --> 00:19:29,502 Why don't you come on down to the station with us? 535 00:19:29,536 --> 00:19:31,371 I can't. I've got class. 536 00:19:31,404 --> 00:19:32,505 I'm already late. 537 00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:35,508 BENSON: It's about James Reed. 538 00:19:35,542 --> 00:19:36,676 Never heard of him. 539 00:19:36,709 --> 00:19:37,777 You've never heard 540 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:38,845 of him-- you've been talking 541 00:19:38,878 --> 00:19:39,712 to him for two months. 542 00:19:39,746 --> 00:19:41,848 We've got the phone records to prove it. 543 00:19:45,385 --> 00:19:46,486 He's dead. 544 00:19:48,255 --> 00:19:49,689 I didn't do it. Ian... 545 00:19:49,722 --> 00:19:52,225 there's lots of ways this could have gone down. 546 00:19:52,259 --> 00:19:53,860 You guys were together, you got into a fight, 547 00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:56,463 things got out of hand... That's sick. 548 00:19:56,496 --> 00:19:57,530 He was harassing me. 549 00:19:57,564 --> 00:19:58,698 STABLER: Why? 550 00:19:58,731 --> 00:20:00,700 Because of my father. 551 00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:02,235 I met him at one of Dad's talks. 552 00:20:02,269 --> 00:20:03,370 Guy just starts in on me. 553 00:20:03,403 --> 00:20:04,937 Freaking faggot. Faggot? 554 00:20:04,971 --> 00:20:08,708 Boy, Ian, buddy, you're a walking cliché. 555 00:20:08,741 --> 00:20:10,877 Most homophobes are actually repressed homosexuals, 556 00:20:10,910 --> 00:20:12,044 you know that? 557 00:20:12,078 --> 00:20:14,447 This is going to be a lot easier if you're honest with us. 558 00:20:14,481 --> 00:20:16,383 I'm not gay... 559 00:20:16,416 --> 00:20:17,850 and I didn't kill him. 560 00:20:17,884 --> 00:20:18,818 You get it? Need some help? 561 00:20:18,851 --> 00:20:20,720 Why don't you come with us down to the station. 562 00:20:20,753 --> 00:20:21,721 Give us a DNA sample, 563 00:20:21,754 --> 00:20:23,356 we'll leave you alone. 564 00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:24,591 No. 565 00:20:28,928 --> 00:20:30,730 Don't have cause to compel a swab. 566 00:20:30,763 --> 00:20:33,833 Why don't we collect ourselves some evidence? 567 00:20:33,866 --> 00:20:36,569 Faulty dryer maybe? 568 00:20:36,603 --> 00:20:39,272 Public area, don't need a warrant. 569 00:20:43,943 --> 00:20:46,279 This one looks clean, too... 570 00:20:47,614 --> 00:20:49,949 ...but it's barely giving off any heat. 571 00:20:52,084 --> 00:20:54,454 This one's on fire. 572 00:21:02,462 --> 00:21:03,963 Liv... 573 00:21:08,935 --> 00:21:09,902 That looks like 574 00:21:09,936 --> 00:21:11,438 blue melted nylon to me. 575 00:21:11,471 --> 00:21:12,739 And that should get us a warrant 576 00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:14,474 for Ian's apartment. 577 00:21:19,979 --> 00:21:21,948 STABLER: Place has been cleaned. 578 00:21:21,981 --> 00:21:24,317 It smells like somebody painted in here. 579 00:21:28,988 --> 00:21:31,324 Guy had drywall in his hair. 580 00:21:31,358 --> 00:21:33,326 His walls aren't even chipped. 581 00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:37,397 The mattress looks like it's brand new. 582 00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:38,765 Luminol didn't pick up any blood. 583 00:21:38,798 --> 00:21:40,833 He didn't bleed that much. 584 00:21:44,671 --> 00:21:46,639 Elliot... 585 00:21:46,673 --> 00:21:48,341 feel that. 586 00:21:51,143 --> 00:21:52,479 It's uneven. 587 00:21:52,512 --> 00:21:53,813 Like it's just been patched. 588 00:21:53,846 --> 00:21:54,814 Right at head level. 589 00:21:54,847 --> 00:21:55,982 Got a saw? Yeah. 590 00:21:56,015 --> 00:21:56,983 Bring it. 591 00:21:57,016 --> 00:21:59,652 ( saw buzzing ) 592 00:21:59,686 --> 00:22:00,820 TATE: What the hell is this? 593 00:22:00,853 --> 00:22:02,489 MAN: Sorry, you're not allowed in here. 594 00:22:02,522 --> 00:22:03,823 What are you doing? 595 00:22:03,856 --> 00:22:05,124 Where's your warrant? 596 00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:06,459 Enjoy. 597 00:22:06,493 --> 00:22:08,695 TATE: I'm calling a lawyer. 598 00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:10,663 You can't destroy private property. 599 00:22:10,697 --> 00:22:12,131 Ian, let's go. 600 00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:15,034 Let's see what we find here first-- just relax. 601 00:22:23,543 --> 00:22:26,879 I got blood... and hair. 602 00:22:28,047 --> 00:22:30,082 All that plastering for nothing, huh? 603 00:22:30,116 --> 00:22:31,618 All right, Tate, you're under arrest 604 00:22:31,651 --> 00:22:32,585 for the murder of James Reed. 605 00:22:32,619 --> 00:22:34,521 Don't say anything. I'm getting you a lawyer. 606 00:22:34,554 --> 00:22:36,055 Say nothing. 607 00:22:54,607 --> 00:22:55,575 Docket ending 247, 608 00:22:55,608 --> 00:22:57,410 the People vs. Ian Alexander Tate. 609 00:22:57,444 --> 00:22:59,712 One count murder in the second degree. 610 00:22:59,746 --> 00:23:01,881 Emma Dishell for the defense. 611 00:23:01,914 --> 00:23:04,050 JUDGE: How does the defendant plead? 612 00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:05,151 Not guilty. 613 00:23:06,185 --> 00:23:08,421 Your thoughts on bail, Ms. Novak? 614 00:23:08,455 --> 00:23:09,889 The People request remand, Your Honor. 615 00:23:09,922 --> 00:23:12,191 The defendant committed murder because of his hatred 616 00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:13,726 for homosexuals. 617 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,194 We consider him a danger to the community. 618 00:23:15,227 --> 00:23:17,063 My client was defending himself 619 00:23:17,096 --> 00:23:19,031 after being sexually assaulted by the decedent. 620 00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:23,069 Your Honor, there was no evidence or report of assault. 621 00:23:23,102 --> 00:23:25,672 In fact, this is the first time anyone's mentioned it. 622 00:23:25,705 --> 00:23:27,574 And as the ADA for Special Victims, 623 00:23:27,607 --> 00:23:29,576 you should know that rape victims 624 00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:31,110 often delay reporting their attacks. 625 00:23:31,143 --> 00:23:33,079 The defendant's semen was found at the scene. 626 00:23:33,112 --> 00:23:34,681 If a woman has an orgasm 627 00:23:34,714 --> 00:23:37,984 when she's raped, does that mean she really wanted it? 628 00:23:38,017 --> 00:23:40,587 Eh, that's beyond the scope of these proceedings. 629 00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:42,221 Now, you say you have proof of a rape, 630 00:23:42,254 --> 00:23:45,224 Ms. Dishell, uh, present it to a trial judge. 631 00:23:45,257 --> 00:23:47,594 Until then, the defendant's remanded. 632 00:23:47,627 --> 00:23:49,128 Next case. 633 00:23:51,598 --> 00:23:53,500 NOVAK: Ian Tate wasn't raped. 634 00:23:53,533 --> 00:23:55,635 It's just a lame attempt at a gay panic defense. 635 00:23:55,668 --> 00:23:57,236 He came on to me so I killed him. 636 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:58,370 That defense rarely works. 637 00:23:58,404 --> 00:24:01,107 You know the trial judge in the Matthew Shepard case 638 00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:03,543 didn't even allow that theory to be presented. 639 00:24:03,576 --> 00:24:05,878 But in New York, gay panic falls 640 00:24:05,912 --> 00:24:08,715 under extreme emotional disturbance. 641 00:24:08,748 --> 00:24:10,483 And juries still don't buy it. 642 00:24:10,517 --> 00:24:12,184 Then why are you so worried? 643 00:24:14,186 --> 00:24:18,858 Because you know this isn't about the letter of the law. 644 00:24:18,891 --> 00:24:21,628 It's about the jury and their prejudices. 645 00:24:21,661 --> 00:24:23,229 And if even one juror thinks 646 00:24:23,262 --> 00:24:25,498 that gays are predators and sinners, 647 00:24:25,532 --> 00:24:27,767 then your murder conviction gets knocked down 648 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,801 to manslaughter. 649 00:24:28,835 --> 00:24:29,836 If not an acquittal. 650 00:24:29,869 --> 00:24:31,638 The Supreme Court may have advanced 651 00:24:31,671 --> 00:24:33,172 gay rights in that Texas case, 652 00:24:33,205 --> 00:24:35,975 but they also incited a bit of backlash. 653 00:24:36,008 --> 00:24:38,077 All right, so what am I supposed to do about that? 654 00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:39,512 Take the juice out of the defense. 655 00:24:39,546 --> 00:24:40,613 Prove the defendant himself 656 00:24:40,647 --> 00:24:43,916 is a homosexual, and gay panic goes out the window. 657 00:24:43,950 --> 00:24:47,119 You can't lose your mind over a homosexual advance 658 00:24:47,153 --> 00:24:48,621 if you're gay. 659 00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:50,990 Now, the tricky part is not playing the politics. 660 00:24:51,023 --> 00:24:53,926 They want to make this about straight versus gay. 661 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,294 You make it about murder. 662 00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:57,063 BENSON: Ian Tate is a loner. 663 00:24:57,096 --> 00:24:59,165 I mean, the only person that he talks to 664 00:24:59,198 --> 00:25:00,967 on a regular basis is his father. 665 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,736 He's got no friends at school, none in his building. 666 00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:04,704 What about financials-- 667 00:25:04,737 --> 00:25:06,806 tab from a gay bar, magazine subscriptions? 668 00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,307 Nothing. He probably didn't want to leave 669 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:09,542 a paper trail that could out him. 670 00:25:09,576 --> 00:25:11,210 And he's never dated anyone else? 671 00:25:11,243 --> 00:25:12,311 I wouldn't be surprised 672 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:15,181 if James Reed is the only person that Ian ever dated. 673 00:25:15,214 --> 00:25:16,182 MUNCH: Hey, guys. 674 00:25:16,215 --> 00:25:17,550 You're late. 675 00:25:17,584 --> 00:25:18,818 I got a good reason. 676 00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:19,819 Bad news. 677 00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:20,720 What is it? 678 00:25:20,753 --> 00:25:22,822 My guess-- Exhibit "A" for the defense. 679 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:24,591 The night of James Reed's murder, 680 00:25:24,624 --> 00:25:27,093 the 2-9 received a call from Stuyvesant's E.R., 681 00:25:27,126 --> 00:25:28,695 patient reporting an assault. 682 00:25:28,728 --> 00:25:29,929 That's the 61. 683 00:25:29,962 --> 00:25:33,966 Victim's name, Ian Tate. 684 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,035 Checked in at 11:05 that night. 685 00:25:36,068 --> 00:25:38,571 14 centimeter lac on his right arm, 686 00:25:38,605 --> 00:25:40,607 minor contusions to his torso. 687 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,808 Said he got mugged. 688 00:25:41,841 --> 00:25:43,876 Well, the precinct wasn't called until 7:30 the next morning. 689 00:25:43,910 --> 00:25:46,846 Welcome to Thursday night at the Knife and Gun Club, detective. 690 00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:48,748 We were slammed, and he had a long wait. 691 00:25:48,781 --> 00:25:49,949 Any sign of sexual assault? 692 00:25:49,982 --> 00:25:52,184 If I thought he had been, I would have asked. 693 00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:53,686 Men underreport as it is. 694 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,787 Okay, after he checked in, 695 00:25:54,821 --> 00:25:56,656 could he have left and come back? 696 00:25:56,689 --> 00:25:58,090 Nope. You leave, you lose your spot. 697 00:25:58,124 --> 00:25:59,091 Thanks. 698 00:25:59,125 --> 00:26:01,994 61 says the precinct cops 699 00:26:02,028 --> 00:26:04,263 got Ian's report at 8:10 that morning; 700 00:26:04,296 --> 00:26:06,332 at 8:30, Reed's body is found seven blocks from here. 701 00:26:06,365 --> 00:26:08,300 And the body wasn't there at 11:00 the night before 702 00:26:08,334 --> 00:26:11,170 when Ian was already on the way to the hospital where he spent the night. 703 00:26:11,203 --> 00:26:12,371 So, when did he find the time 704 00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:14,106 to get rid of the body of a 165-pound man? 705 00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:15,407 Had to be the father. 706 00:26:15,441 --> 00:26:17,877 Nobody else in Ian's life is going to dump a body for him. 707 00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:19,612 We got to place Daddy at that scene. 708 00:26:19,646 --> 00:26:21,113 You guys were right. 709 00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:22,749 What did you find? 710 00:26:22,782 --> 00:26:23,983 That's your victim's blood. 711 00:26:24,016 --> 00:26:25,384 We rushed labs to get the match 712 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:27,319 once your suspect was in custody. 713 00:26:27,353 --> 00:26:28,320 No more rush. 714 00:26:28,354 --> 00:26:29,388 Until now. 715 00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:30,990 Show and Tell time. 716 00:26:31,023 --> 00:26:34,927 The cheap and fast way to fix a wall is to put a patch 717 00:26:34,961 --> 00:26:37,396 behind the hole, hold it steady with a string, 718 00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:38,597 and plaster over it. 719 00:26:38,631 --> 00:26:41,768 I found another blood sample after the patch was removed. 720 00:26:41,801 --> 00:26:44,637 When you chip away all the plaster used to fix it, 721 00:26:44,671 --> 00:26:47,306 you find the perimeter of the initial damage. 722 00:26:47,339 --> 00:26:51,778 Now, if I take your head and bash it through the wall? 723 00:26:51,811 --> 00:26:54,681 My hand is going to go through as well. 724 00:26:54,714 --> 00:26:57,116 So, when I pull my hand out... 725 00:26:57,149 --> 00:26:58,718 That's the killer's blood. 726 00:26:58,751 --> 00:26:59,719 And it's not Ian Tate. 727 00:26:59,752 --> 00:27:02,288 DNA came back matching only his Y chromosome. 728 00:27:02,321 --> 00:27:04,290 The killer is a close male relative. 729 00:27:04,323 --> 00:27:06,625 No one's closer then Dad. 730 00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:11,430 ATTORNEY: I'm listening. 731 00:27:11,463 --> 00:27:13,432 Unless the next words out of your mouth are man two, 732 00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:15,034 we've got nothing to talk about. 733 00:27:15,067 --> 00:27:16,903 Well, I think I can do better than that... 734 00:27:16,936 --> 00:27:18,671 if your client recants his statement. 735 00:27:18,705 --> 00:27:20,439 My statement is the truth. 736 00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:23,342 He forced himself on me and I fought back. 737 00:27:23,375 --> 00:27:24,711 And you dumped the body 738 00:27:24,744 --> 00:27:26,779 on the street near your house. 739 00:27:26,813 --> 00:27:27,780 Yeah. 740 00:27:27,814 --> 00:27:29,248 When did you do that? 741 00:27:29,281 --> 00:27:32,251 That night or the next morning? 742 00:27:36,422 --> 00:27:37,757 I don't remember. 743 00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:38,958 What does this matter? 744 00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:40,326 I think your client knows 745 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,894 exactly why this matters. 746 00:27:43,362 --> 00:27:45,031 He caught you, didn't he? 747 00:27:46,398 --> 00:27:47,734 Shut up. 748 00:27:47,767 --> 00:27:50,703 Ian, going to jail isn't going to help. 749 00:27:50,737 --> 00:27:51,971 I did it. 750 00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:55,808 We found your father's blood in your apartment. 751 00:27:55,842 --> 00:27:57,376 We know what happened. 752 00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:59,111 If you have evidence implicating his father, 753 00:27:59,145 --> 00:28:00,847 you have an obligation to drop the charges 754 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,914 and get my client out of here. 755 00:28:01,948 --> 00:28:04,784 If your client wants to avoid accessory charges, 756 00:28:04,817 --> 00:28:05,985 you'll sit down now. 757 00:28:14,861 --> 00:28:16,796 You have no idea. 758 00:28:16,829 --> 00:28:18,464 No... 759 00:28:18,497 --> 00:28:20,833 but I can imagine how you must feel. 760 00:28:22,802 --> 00:28:25,905 James knew what you were going through, didn't he? 761 00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:30,509 He knew what it felt like to hate yourself, 762 00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:34,280 to want to change and know you can't. 763 00:28:34,313 --> 00:28:39,418 For the first time, somebody understood you. 764 00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:40,887 Now, he's gone. 765 00:28:43,355 --> 00:28:44,991 You didn't go to the hospital 766 00:28:45,024 --> 00:28:46,826 because James attacked you. 767 00:28:46,859 --> 00:28:50,062 Your father did. 768 00:28:55,101 --> 00:28:56,869 He didn't mean to. 769 00:28:58,905 --> 00:29:02,809 He was shocked seeing me like that. 770 00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:11,818 Tell them that, okay? 771 00:29:11,851 --> 00:29:14,186 He wasn't himself. 772 00:29:14,220 --> 00:29:17,156 It wasn't his fault. 773 00:29:22,528 --> 00:29:23,996 What the hell? 774 00:29:24,030 --> 00:29:25,331 This is completely... 775 00:29:25,364 --> 00:29:26,498 Completely what? 776 00:29:26,532 --> 00:29:28,901 What is it, Doctor? Sick? Unnatural? 777 00:29:28,935 --> 00:29:29,902 So is murder. 778 00:29:29,936 --> 00:29:30,970 Roger Tate, you're under arrest 779 00:29:31,003 --> 00:29:32,304 for the murder of James Reed. 780 00:29:32,338 --> 00:29:33,639 You have the right to remain silent. 781 00:29:33,672 --> 00:29:37,009 Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. 782 00:29:50,356 --> 00:29:52,324 She rides her bike to work-- 783 00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:55,127 that is so environmentally conscious. 784 00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:56,128 Ms. Novak, right? 785 00:29:56,162 --> 00:29:59,131 Your office told me you would be riding up. 786 00:29:59,165 --> 00:30:01,400 Dave Seaver, representing Roger Tate. 787 00:30:01,433 --> 00:30:03,870 Yeah, I remember your name-- state Senate elections. 788 00:30:03,903 --> 00:30:05,137 I didn't vote for you. 789 00:30:05,171 --> 00:30:07,306 Neither did most of New York, but that's okay. 790 00:30:07,339 --> 00:30:09,876 My shrink says it's made me less self-destructive. 791 00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:11,077 A little advice, Dave: 792 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:13,212 you want to court the conservative vote, be my guest. 793 00:30:13,245 --> 00:30:14,446 But I'd find another client. 794 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,215 Roger Tate's no defender of family values. 795 00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:17,049 He's just a killer. 796 00:30:17,083 --> 00:30:18,951 He was defending his son from a rapist. 797 00:30:18,985 --> 00:30:20,853 Yeah, you know, that might have worked 798 00:30:20,887 --> 00:30:22,855 before Ian Tate said the sex was consensual. 799 00:30:22,889 --> 00:30:24,190 My client was mistaken, 800 00:30:24,223 --> 00:30:27,193 which, under the law, is still justifiable homicide. 801 00:30:29,929 --> 00:30:31,864 Your Honor, my client believed he saw a man 802 00:30:31,898 --> 00:30:33,199 raping his son. 803 00:30:33,232 --> 00:30:35,167 Article 35 of the Penal Code states 804 00:30:35,201 --> 00:30:38,437 that one can use deadly force to prevent forcible sodomy. 805 00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:41,007 Justification is not a defense for stupidity. 806 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,442 The test is, would a man with the same background 807 00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:46,512 and experiences as my client, respond in the same manner? 808 00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:47,947 A reasonable man, Mr. Seaver. 809 00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:49,581 And no reasonable person believes 810 00:30:49,615 --> 00:30:52,151 two men having sex automatically constitutes rape. 811 00:30:52,184 --> 00:30:53,219 My client's research 812 00:30:53,252 --> 00:30:54,887 focused on aggression, promiscuity 813 00:30:54,921 --> 00:30:56,655 and deviant behavior in homosexual males. 814 00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:59,358 It's not just a crazy belief; he's done the studies 815 00:30:59,391 --> 00:31:00,526 to back it up. 816 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,062 Your Daubert test requires theories to be accepted 817 00:31:03,095 --> 00:31:04,596 by the scientific community. 818 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:05,664 Dr. Tate's work was not. 819 00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:06,698 I'm not presenting 820 00:31:06,732 --> 00:31:09,101 my client's work as accepted scientific theory, 821 00:31:09,135 --> 00:31:11,237 but as irrefutable proof of his state of mind. 822 00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:13,005 Tate's own son is homosexual. 823 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,340 And he didn't know that. 824 00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:15,341 Your Honor, 825 00:31:15,374 --> 00:31:16,475 did my client possess 826 00:31:16,508 --> 00:31:18,277 the culpable mental state required 827 00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:19,946 to commit a crime? The answer is no. 828 00:31:19,979 --> 00:31:21,347 This defense is an attempt 829 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:24,183 to encourage and exploit bigotry against homosexuals. 830 00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:26,018 He's going for jury nullification. 831 00:31:26,052 --> 00:31:28,087 Ms. Novak, I'm not convinced 832 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,489 that a defense should be rejected 833 00:31:30,522 --> 00:31:33,325 simply because a jury might believe it. 834 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:36,695 Defining reasonable is a very difficult issue. 835 00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:39,999 And it's one that I believe is better decided 836 00:31:40,032 --> 00:31:42,001 by 12 of Dr. Tate's peers. 837 00:31:45,437 --> 00:31:48,007 NOVAK: The night James Reed was killed, 838 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,477 how did your father get into your apartment? 839 00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:52,678 He has a key. 840 00:31:52,711 --> 00:31:54,413 He was bringing over dinner. 841 00:31:54,446 --> 00:31:57,416 But you thought he was out of town, 842 00:31:57,449 --> 00:32:01,587 and that's why you invited your boyfriend to spend the night. 843 00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:05,091 Yes. 844 00:32:05,124 --> 00:32:09,395 And he caught you in bed with James Reed. 845 00:32:09,428 --> 00:32:11,097 What did he do? 846 00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:13,532 He pulled James away from me. 847 00:32:13,565 --> 00:32:14,700 Then what? 848 00:32:14,733 --> 00:32:17,636 Then he pushed James into the wall two or three times. 849 00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:19,405 I heard a crack. 850 00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:23,209 James stopped fighting; he was dead. 851 00:32:23,242 --> 00:32:25,344 Your father then attacked you. 852 00:32:25,377 --> 00:32:26,545 What did he say? 853 00:32:26,578 --> 00:32:28,014 He kept asking me 854 00:32:28,047 --> 00:32:29,215 how I could do this to him. 855 00:32:29,248 --> 00:32:31,617 Meaning, how could you threaten his life's work 856 00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:32,618 by being homosexual? 857 00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:34,586 Objection. Calls for speculation. 858 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:36,655 Withdrawn. 859 00:32:36,688 --> 00:32:39,091 Nothing further. 860 00:32:42,028 --> 00:32:44,630 When did you tell your dad you were homosexual? 861 00:32:44,663 --> 00:32:46,765 I didn't. 862 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:48,567 And you've known for how long? 863 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,070 Since I can remember. 864 00:32:51,103 --> 00:32:52,704 So, you've been a liar your whole life? 865 00:32:52,738 --> 00:32:54,106 It must have been difficult 866 00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:55,774 hiding that kind of lifestyle. 867 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:58,677 You even made up a girlfriend, didn't you? 868 00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:59,678 Sandy? 869 00:32:59,711 --> 00:33:02,181 That was high school. 870 00:33:02,214 --> 00:33:04,116 But you must have found some other outlet 871 00:33:04,150 --> 00:33:05,651 for your predilections? Gay pornography. 872 00:33:05,684 --> 00:33:08,320 Objection, assuming facts not in evidence. 873 00:33:08,354 --> 00:33:10,456 Tone down the rhetoric, Mr. Seaver. 874 00:33:10,489 --> 00:33:12,258 Objection sustained. 875 00:33:12,291 --> 00:33:14,160 Your dad knock you around a lot? 876 00:33:14,193 --> 00:33:15,361 No. Never. 877 00:33:15,394 --> 00:33:18,030 Ever see him get into a physical altercation with anybody? 878 00:33:18,064 --> 00:33:20,299 Once. This kid at school beat me up. 879 00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:23,369 My dad got in a fight with the kid's father. 880 00:33:23,402 --> 00:33:24,703 Broke his nose. 881 00:33:24,736 --> 00:33:29,541 So, he's only violent when he's defending you? 882 00:33:29,575 --> 00:33:34,046 Ian, why did you confess to James Reed's murder? 883 00:33:43,355 --> 00:33:46,358 What nobody gets... 884 00:33:46,392 --> 00:33:50,462 is this happened because of me. 885 00:33:50,496 --> 00:33:54,533 Because of what I am. 886 00:33:56,102 --> 00:33:57,736 If I weren't so sick, 887 00:33:57,769 --> 00:34:00,439 I could've controlled myself. 888 00:34:08,247 --> 00:34:11,217 It was my fault. 889 00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:15,487 I didn't want my dad going to jail for my mistake. 890 00:34:19,291 --> 00:34:20,659 Dr. Cahill, 891 00:34:20,692 --> 00:34:24,163 what was the first study you and Dr. Tate conducted? 892 00:34:24,196 --> 00:34:26,865 CAHILL: We analyzed over 10,000 questionnaires 893 00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:27,833 on male sexuality. 894 00:34:27,866 --> 00:34:31,203 And what conclusions did you and Dr. Tate draw? 895 00:34:31,237 --> 00:34:33,705 That homosexuals solicited sex from minors, 896 00:34:33,739 --> 00:34:35,674 engaged in high-risk behaviors 897 00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:38,877 and had violent sexual relations more than heterosexuals. 898 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,413 Taking all of Dr. Tate's research 899 00:34:41,447 --> 00:34:44,116 on homosexual behavior into account, 900 00:34:44,150 --> 00:34:47,753 what do you believe are the general conclusions? 901 00:34:47,786 --> 00:34:52,258 Homosexuals suffer a multitude of psychological problems. 902 00:34:52,291 --> 00:34:55,161 They are more likely to be depressed, alienated 903 00:34:55,194 --> 00:34:57,563 and have issues with rage. 904 00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:58,864 Thank you. 905 00:34:58,897 --> 00:35:01,200 No further questions. 906 00:35:03,735 --> 00:35:05,871 Where have these studies been published? 907 00:35:05,904 --> 00:35:07,139 Which one? 908 00:35:07,173 --> 00:35:08,340 Any of them? 909 00:35:08,374 --> 00:35:09,741 They're still being considered 910 00:35:09,775 --> 00:35:11,210 for publication. 911 00:35:11,243 --> 00:35:12,211 Oh. 912 00:35:12,244 --> 00:35:13,679 Well, good luck with that. 913 00:35:13,712 --> 00:35:17,249 So, you say gay people have more sex with minors 914 00:35:17,283 --> 00:35:18,850 then straight people? 915 00:35:18,884 --> 00:35:20,152 Why does almost 916 00:35:20,186 --> 00:35:21,320 every other study say 917 00:35:21,353 --> 00:35:24,590 pedophiles are far more likely to be heterosexual? 918 00:35:24,623 --> 00:35:26,425 That is evidence of the bias 919 00:35:26,458 --> 00:35:29,195 within the so-called mainstream psychology. 920 00:35:29,228 --> 00:35:31,797 So, when the American Psychiatric Association 921 00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:33,232 removed homosexuality 922 00:35:33,265 --> 00:35:35,501 from its list of mental disorders in 1973, 923 00:35:35,534 --> 00:35:39,338 and every other major medical association followed suit, 924 00:35:39,371 --> 00:35:41,440 you're saying it's all a big conspiracy? 925 00:35:41,473 --> 00:35:42,908 Objection. 926 00:35:42,941 --> 00:35:45,711 Nothing further. 927 00:35:45,744 --> 00:35:47,946 I'm ashamed to say I... 928 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:52,318 I never suspected Ian was a homosexual. 929 00:35:52,351 --> 00:35:53,852 I wish I'd known. 930 00:35:53,885 --> 00:35:55,454 Why? 931 00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:57,189 Wouldn't you have disowned him, 932 00:35:57,223 --> 00:35:58,224 committed him to a mental hospital? 933 00:35:58,257 --> 00:35:59,225 No. 934 00:35:59,258 --> 00:36:00,792 I loved my son. 935 00:36:00,826 --> 00:36:03,262 I would have done anything to help him. 936 00:36:03,295 --> 00:36:07,165 No further questions. 937 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:09,735 You and Ian were close? 938 00:36:11,370 --> 00:36:12,871 Yes. 939 00:36:12,904 --> 00:36:15,674 But you claim you didn't know he was gay, 940 00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:17,743 so not that close I guess. 941 00:36:17,776 --> 00:36:20,446 I love my son. 942 00:36:20,479 --> 00:36:21,880 And yet, you let him take the fall 943 00:36:21,913 --> 00:36:23,249 for causing James Reed's death. 944 00:36:23,282 --> 00:36:26,485 So, maybe the truer statement would be, 945 00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:28,620 you love Ian, but not as much as you love yourself. 946 00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:29,621 I'm on trial 947 00:36:29,655 --> 00:36:31,823 for protecting my son from a man 948 00:36:31,857 --> 00:36:34,760 I thought was raping him. 949 00:36:34,793 --> 00:36:35,994 Why dump the body? 950 00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:37,463 Why conceal the evidence? 951 00:36:37,496 --> 00:36:38,464 Why not call the police 952 00:36:38,497 --> 00:36:40,399 and tell them what a righteous guy you are? 953 00:36:40,432 --> 00:36:41,633 Objection. 954 00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:42,668 I love Ian. 955 00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:43,735 You keep saying that, Dr. Tate. 956 00:36:43,769 --> 00:36:44,970 You can't tell me 957 00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:47,506 how I feel about my son. 958 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:51,343 How dare you presume to know anything about our relationship? 959 00:36:51,377 --> 00:36:53,645 Because, he's been sitting in this court room 960 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:54,746 while you mount a defense 961 00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:57,683 that calls him a deviant. 962 00:36:57,716 --> 00:37:02,421 Now you tell me again how much you love him. 963 00:37:20,539 --> 00:37:22,007 Hey, how did it go with Tate? 964 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,609 Jurors eight and ten believe him. 965 00:37:23,642 --> 00:37:24,610 Enough to hang the jury? 966 00:37:24,643 --> 00:37:25,711 Maybe. 967 00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:27,579 In which case, all I've done is out some poor kid, 968 00:37:27,613 --> 00:37:29,848 it's not exactly my favorite legal strategy. 969 00:37:29,881 --> 00:37:31,016 You didn't have a choice. 970 00:37:31,049 --> 00:37:32,651 You got kids, you ever wonder if one's gay? 971 00:37:36,388 --> 00:37:38,424 I don't know, I haven't asked. 972 00:37:38,457 --> 00:37:39,558 Elliot, you know your kids, 973 00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:40,926 you'd know if one of them was gay. 974 00:37:40,959 --> 00:37:41,993 Exactly, 975 00:37:42,027 --> 00:37:43,829 and Tate's whole defense is predicated on the fact 976 00:37:43,862 --> 00:37:45,997 that he never suspected his son was gay. 977 00:37:46,031 --> 00:37:47,999 You don't buy it? 978 00:37:48,033 --> 00:37:50,469 No, but I can't prove it. 979 00:37:50,502 --> 00:37:52,371 Ian had a girlfriend all through high school. 980 00:37:52,404 --> 00:37:53,639 For all appearances, 981 00:37:53,672 --> 00:37:54,773 he was straight. 982 00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:55,841 We never found a girlfriend when 983 00:37:55,874 --> 00:37:56,942 we were looking at Tate's past. 984 00:37:58,344 --> 00:38:00,646 'Cause we were looking for boyfriends. 985 00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:02,348 Well, if Ian knew all along that he was gay, 986 00:38:02,381 --> 00:38:04,383 I bet you that the girlfriend did too. 987 00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:06,385 Find out. 988 00:38:06,418 --> 00:38:07,353 I haven't talked to Ian 989 00:38:07,386 --> 00:38:08,286 in a couple of years, 990 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,888 I don't know how much help I'm going to be. 991 00:38:09,921 --> 00:38:11,390 We appreciate anything you would tell us. 992 00:38:11,423 --> 00:38:12,524 One of the guidance counselors 993 00:38:12,558 --> 00:38:16,462 said that you and Ian dated all through high school? 994 00:38:16,495 --> 00:38:19,598 Um, we were good friends, but I wouldn't say we dated. 995 00:38:19,631 --> 00:38:20,732 No? What would you say? 996 00:38:20,766 --> 00:38:23,369 He just wasn't very interested in the physical part, 997 00:38:23,402 --> 00:38:25,070 which was okay, 998 00:38:25,103 --> 00:38:27,839 I really loved him, and he loved me. 999 00:38:27,873 --> 00:38:29,375 So, he wasn't really attracted to women. 1000 00:38:29,408 --> 00:38:30,909 Well, he never like 1001 00:38:30,942 --> 00:38:32,578 came out to me or anything. 1002 00:38:32,611 --> 00:38:33,779 I just knew. 1003 00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:35,046 I was happy to be there for him 1004 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,449 so people wouldn't harass him like they did the other guys. 1005 00:38:37,483 --> 00:38:38,417 Did you ever tell anybody 1006 00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:39,551 that Ian was gay? 1007 00:38:39,585 --> 00:38:41,420 Like, his father maybe? 1008 00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:42,488 Oh God, no, no way. 1009 00:38:42,521 --> 00:38:43,489 Ian would have killed me. 1010 00:38:43,522 --> 00:38:45,391 I told him. 1011 00:38:45,424 --> 00:38:47,426 Mom, are you crazy? Why? 1012 00:38:47,459 --> 00:38:48,760 He was such a sweet boy. 1013 00:38:48,794 --> 00:38:50,496 He spent so much time around here, 1014 00:38:50,529 --> 00:38:51,763 he was like a second child. 1015 00:38:51,797 --> 00:38:53,031 I could see how much he was suffering, 1016 00:38:53,064 --> 00:38:54,433 and I thought Roger should know. 1017 00:38:56,802 --> 00:38:58,136 When did you tell him? 1018 00:38:58,169 --> 00:38:59,471 The kids' senior year. 1019 00:38:59,505 --> 00:39:01,773 I called Roger and I told him, 1020 00:39:01,807 --> 00:39:04,776 "Roger, you should talk to Ian, he's very depressed." 1021 00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:07,379 I just told him, I said, "Roger, your son is gay, 1022 00:39:07,413 --> 00:39:10,382 "you're making an incredibly difficult situation worse, 1023 00:39:10,416 --> 00:39:12,618 you need to be a father." 1024 00:39:12,651 --> 00:39:13,919 How did he respond to that? 1025 00:39:13,952 --> 00:39:15,521 He thanked me, 1026 00:39:15,554 --> 00:39:18,457 and he asked me never to contact him again. 1027 00:39:27,533 --> 00:39:29,167 Ian, what are you doing here? 1028 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,003 Why don't you try this brilliant manipulation 1029 00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:33,505 on some little legal aid attorney, Ms. Novak, 1030 00:39:33,539 --> 00:39:34,506 and stop wasting my time. 1031 00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:35,507 Let's go. 1032 00:39:35,541 --> 00:39:36,775 A one-time offer, gone as soon 1033 00:39:36,808 --> 00:39:39,044 as you walk out that door. 1034 00:39:39,077 --> 00:39:40,446 Murder Two, 20 to life, 1035 00:39:40,479 --> 00:39:41,913 I don't pursue sentencing enhancement 1036 00:39:41,947 --> 00:39:42,948 under the Hate Crimes Act, 1037 00:39:42,981 --> 00:39:45,651 and Doctor Tate gets the prison of his choice, 1038 00:39:45,684 --> 00:39:47,486 and might I suggest the security 1039 00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,488 of a federal prison. 1040 00:39:49,521 --> 00:39:51,089 20 years? 1041 00:39:51,122 --> 00:39:52,558 With that jury, he's looking 1042 00:39:52,591 --> 00:39:53,725 at a man-two, probation. 1043 00:39:53,759 --> 00:39:55,427 They haven't heard my rebuttal witness. 1044 00:39:55,461 --> 00:39:57,596 Laura Klein. 1045 00:39:57,629 --> 00:39:59,831 Consider this your notification. 1046 00:39:59,865 --> 00:40:02,468 You remember her, don't you, Dr. Tate? 1047 00:40:02,501 --> 00:40:04,870 Sandy's mother. 1048 00:40:09,808 --> 00:40:12,578 You knew. 1049 00:40:12,611 --> 00:40:14,112 All this time. 1050 00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:15,447 All these years, 1051 00:40:15,481 --> 00:40:16,882 you knew. 1052 00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:18,216 Ian, it's not like that. 1053 00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:20,652 Yes, it is Dad. 1054 00:40:20,686 --> 00:40:22,988 You know how many times I told myself, 1055 00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:24,856 "It's okay if he thinks gays are sick. 1056 00:40:24,890 --> 00:40:26,792 "Freaks, evil. 1057 00:40:26,825 --> 00:40:31,096 "Because, if he knew about me, if he knew me, 1058 00:40:31,129 --> 00:40:32,498 "he wouldn't say it. 1059 00:40:32,531 --> 00:40:36,468 He wouldn't think it." 1060 00:40:36,502 --> 00:40:38,704 I didn't do this to hurt you. 1061 00:40:38,737 --> 00:40:39,738 But, it did hurt me, Dad. 1062 00:40:39,771 --> 00:40:42,240 Every day. 1063 00:40:42,273 --> 00:40:45,777 And I made myself take everything you said, 1064 00:40:45,811 --> 00:40:46,645 all that crap, 1065 00:40:46,678 --> 00:40:49,848 because I really thought you wouldn't try 1066 00:40:49,881 --> 00:40:52,250 to hurt me on purpose. 1067 00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:55,120 I mean, who would do that to 1068 00:40:55,153 --> 00:40:56,855 somebody that they really love? 1069 00:40:56,888 --> 00:40:59,591 To their own son? 1070 00:40:59,625 --> 00:41:01,527 I can help you. 1071 00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:04,262 What makes you think you can make me 1072 00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:06,231 any more straight than what I've already tried 1073 00:41:06,264 --> 00:41:07,733 to do to myself? 1074 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,076 All you've done... 1075 00:41:18,109 --> 00:41:21,913 is made me wish I was dead. 1076 00:41:36,227 --> 00:41:38,129 They took the plea. 1077 00:41:39,631 --> 00:41:42,534 It's so weird, you know? 1078 00:41:42,568 --> 00:41:43,969 I've been sitting here for a while, 1079 00:41:44,002 --> 00:41:47,906 and everybody walks by, I wonder, does he know? 1080 00:41:47,939 --> 00:41:50,008 Does she? 1081 00:41:52,277 --> 00:41:53,679 James used to always talk 1082 00:41:53,712 --> 00:41:55,847 about how happy he was that he was gay. 1083 00:41:55,881 --> 00:41:58,216 He said guys are so much more fun. 1084 00:41:59,618 --> 00:42:02,588 Yeah, I agree with James. 1085 00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:04,990 Everything's different now, you know? 1086 00:42:05,023 --> 00:42:07,759 No matter what I do, 1087 00:42:07,793 --> 00:42:10,328 nothing will be like it was before. 1088 00:42:10,361 --> 00:42:11,797 Ian, I had my job to do, 1089 00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:14,099 and I made you deal with something 1090 00:42:14,132 --> 00:42:16,134 you weren't ready for. 1091 00:42:16,167 --> 00:42:17,636 I'm sorry. 1092 00:42:17,669 --> 00:42:20,606 Yeah. 1093 00:42:24,610 --> 00:42:25,777 I'm not. 1094 00:42:25,811 --> 00:42:28,346 Captioning sponsored by UNIVERSAL NETWORK TELEVISION 1095 00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:32,317 and NBC 1096 00:42:32,350 --> 00:42:34,753 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 1097 00:43:10,922 --> 00:43:13,591 ( wolf howling )